It's a travesty it took this long for Trammel.
And I agree with the sentiment that Lou Whitaker should have gone in with him. In fact, in a lot of ways his resume is better than Trammel's. Both were WAR monsters 2 decades before WAR was a thing, but neither was exactly a flashy player.
It's a joke that it took until 2017 for a single 1984 Tiger to be in the Hall of Fame. They were 35-5 at one point!
On the other hand, Jack Morris shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.
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- Great day for Detroit -
MattG,
2017-12-11, 06:11
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- Ted Simmons missed it by one vote -
Jay,
2017-12-11, 17:00
- You mean 24 shortstops and 18 catchers -
Jack,
2017-12-12, 08:20
- the HOF statistical monitoring benchmarks like Jaffe -
Jay,
2017-12-12, 08:27
- I was just going to edit that it looked like that was the - Jack, 2017-12-12, 08:29
- the HOF statistical monitoring benchmarks like Jaffe -
Jay,
2017-12-12, 08:27
- You mean 24 shortstops and 18 catchers -
Jack,
2017-12-12, 08:20
- I am so happy; Now let’s get to work on adding Sweet Lou
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JD in Portland,
2017-12-11, 12:43
- It's a travesty it took this long for Trammel. -
PAK,
2017-12-11, 08:32
- Only five teams have ever gone wire to wire and won the WS -
Jack,
2017-12-11, 09:33
- I don’t know if anyone on that Sox team will make it -
Jim (fisherj08),
2017-12-11, 09:36
- Frank absolutely does count - Jack, 2017-12-11, 09:38
- I don’t know if anyone on that Sox team will make it -
Jim (fisherj08),
2017-12-11, 09:36
- Only five teams have ever gone wire to wire and won the WS -
Jack,
2017-12-11, 09:33
- Morris is a terrible choice. -
KGB,
2017-12-11, 06:41
- His HOF resume is very similar to Mark Grace’s -
MattG,
2017-12-11, 12:01
- slumpbusters? -
KGB,
2017-12-11, 12:15
- Dan Patrick told the funniest story on Grace a while back - Busco21, 2017-12-11, 19:33
- slumpbusters?
- He's a rich man's Ken Holtzman. -
Kevin,
2017-12-11, 06:49
- No kidding -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2017-12-11, 06:46
- It's pretty much that he pitched some World Series gems -
JRT,
2017-12-11, 08:34
- He lost 2 WS games in '92. But your second point is key -
Jack,
2017-12-11, 09:27
- Billy Pierce was as nice a guy as you could ever meet... -
BillyGoat,
2017-12-11, 12:43
- He lived in my wife's neighborhood on the South Side - Jack, 2017-12-11, 13:28
- Billy Pierce was as nice a guy as you could ever meet... -
BillyGoat,
2017-12-11, 12:43
- He also had the benefit - KGB, 2017-12-11, 09:18
- He lost 2 WS games in '92. But your second point is key -
Jack,
2017-12-11, 09:27
- It's pretty much that he pitched some World Series gems -
JRT,
2017-12-11, 08:34
- His HOF resume is very similar to Mark Grace’s -
MattG,
2017-12-11, 12:01
- Morris getting in props open the door for Buehrle -
Jim (fisherj08),
2017-12-11, 06:28
- Love Buehrle, but ain't gonna happen, and it shouldn't -
Jack,
2017-12-11, 08:10
- a fine assessment -
KGB,
2017-12-11, 09:19
- a fine assessment
- You serious, Clark? -
Irish96,
2017-12-11, 07:31
- I mean, most of it is personal bias -
Jim (fisherj08),
2017-12-11, 07:38
- Morris was not a strikeout pitcher. 5.8k/9 -
JRT,
2017-12-11, 08:51
- And that's the problem with the Morris inclusion - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2017-12-11, 07:56
- Morris was not a strikeout pitcher. 5.8k/9
- I mean, most of it is personal bias -
Jim (fisherj08),
2017-12-11, 07:38
- Love Buehrle, but ain't gonna happen, and it shouldn't -
Jack,
2017-12-11, 08:10
- Ted Simmons missed it by one vote -
Jay,
2017-12-11, 17:00