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sorry, I misunderstood the point

by Mike (bart), Monday, December 04, 2017, 09:05 @ Jay

but relative to ND, having the playoffs on the line could explain one November loss here and there, but not a string of wholesale collapses in quality of play. E.g., it explains, perhaps, Miami 2017 or ASU 2014, but not the subsequent losses. And, to be clear, if we pull apart any one data point there will be tons of room for debate, etc. but at a pulled back view I think there's a multi-year pattern that would suggest something beyond unhappy confluences of events.

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