I missed the first episode, but I'm recording it.

by oviedoirish , Oviedo, Florida, Monday, September 18, 2017, 10:23 (2403 days ago) @ Jim (fisherj08)

Really looking forward to watching it.

It's a shame that our govt. was clueless about Vietnam too. Given Vietnam's historical enmity towards China (at least at that time), they were not likely to be part of the "domino" fears of the time. I highly recommend reading "Fire in the Lake: The Vietnamese and the Americans in Vietnam" by Frances FitzGerald

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Reactions to the first episode of The Vietnam War? - Jack, 2017-09-18, 07:39
- haven't watched yet, but - Jay, 2017-09-19, 08:30
  - Ongoing debate in U.S. History circles. - PMan, 2017-09-19, 10:29
  - I'm as big a JFK fan as the next guy, but Joseph McBride - Jack, 2017-09-19, 08:57
  - Does the doc really say we went in with "good faith"? - HullieAndMikes, 2017-09-19, 08:55
    - No, it didn't, and you shouldn't delete it - Jack, 2017-09-19, 09:00
      - It doesn't? - HullieAndMikes, 2017-09-19, 09:04
        
        OK, that's two different things - Jack, 2017-09-19, 09:11
  - Haven't watched either but it squares with Burns criticisms - PAK, 2017-09-19, 08:53
    - I have criticized Burns for many of the same reasons - Jack, 2017-09-19, 09:06
- I figure this reaction to the series is worth noting here... - domer.mq, 2017-09-18, 18:09
  - I'm not sure what his criticism is here - Jack, 2017-09-19, 07:46
    - Prefacing this in that I haven't watched the Burns doc - HullieAndMikes, 2017-09-19, 08:13
      - I took the opposite from the first episode. - PMan, 2017-09-19, 10:38
      - I have watched it, and it sure wasn't my impression - Jack, 2017-09-19, 08:45
        
        I don't know what you mean by "absolutely legitimate" - HullieAndMikes, 2017-09-19, 08:56
        
        That it colored everything back then - Jack, 2017-09-19, 09:16
- Great. - PMan, 2017-09-18, 08:05
- During the Q&A I attended - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-09-18, 07:46
  - PBS did a 13-episode Vietnam documentary in the 1980s - HullieAndMikes, 2017-09-18, 12:45
  - I missed the first episode, but I'm recording it. - oviedoirish, 2017-09-18, 10:23
    - Oh, you'll change that notion once you watch the show - Jack, 2017-09-18, 11:46
      - One of the funnier things they revealed in the clips we saw - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-09-18, 11:50
        
        No surprise there. Communists everywhere are the same - Jack, 2017-09-18, 11:53
        
        Some are more equal than others - Flann, 2017-09-18, 12:49
        
        Yep. Exactly the reference I was thinking of - Jack, 2017-09-18, 12:59
        
        The bird is the church - CK08, 2017-09-18, 13:50
        
        And Mr Frederick is Hitler - Jack, 2017-09-18, 14:20
        
        Maybe the least subtle book in the history of English lit - HCE, 2017-09-18, 13:33
        
        it's meant for kids, right? - Jay, 2017-09-19, 08:02
        
        No one seemed to think so when it was published - HCE, 2017-09-19, 09:00
        
        on my son's school's reading list for 8th grade - JN, 2017-09-19, 08:18
        
        High schools these days - HullieAndMikes, 2017-09-19, 08:15
        
        Ayn Rand would like a word. - Jason93, 2017-09-19, 07:03
        
        I'm not sure Ayn Rand counts as literature - HCE, 2017-09-19, 09:05
        
        I read on the internet that Atlas Shrugged was a modern - Jason93, 2017-09-19, 09:15
        
        It topped the Modern Library's 100 novels (reader's list) - HCE, 2017-09-19, 09:44
        
        I weep for the future. - Jason93, 2017-09-19, 10:10
        
        Goodreads reviews of Animal Farm will make you weep - LT, 2017-09-19, 05:15
        
        Re-read 1984 earlier this year - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-09-18, 13:46
        
        Was thinking more about how we did this too, but yes. - Jim (fisherj08), 2017-09-18, 12:19
  - On Burns and Ann Arbor, to his credit - Jack, 2017-09-18, 07:55

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I missed the first episode, but I'm recording it.