That is likely true
I'd love to see some data on the effectiveness of boycotts for national brands. I can't imagine that a boycott would have any effect at all on ND. Going 4-8 will have already depressed demand several orders of magnitude more than an additional boycott.
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Complete thread:
- I suspect this one will be taken a bit more seriously. -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:24
- I like the new ad. Any of you who don't - OGerry, 2016-12-11, 14:40
- Why? - domer.mq, 2016-12-11, 10:09
- is anybody here in on the planning of these things? -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 10:05
- I have to confess - Jeff (BGS), 2016-12-11, 17:06
- Also, and I hate to give these people advice -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 09:13
- To me, nothing says professionalism like a Gmail email - Pat (Moco), 2016-12-11, 09:23
- It won't be taken seriously -
Eric M,
2016-12-11, 08:38
- Some good points there. - Bill, 2016-12-11, 11:55
- Do we know where the silent majority really is at? -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-11, 09:54
- That's a good question -
Eric M,
2016-12-11, 18:00
- I'll register my silent majority -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-12, 02:28
- I sympathize with that - Eric M, 2016-12-12, 05:47
- I'll register my silent majority -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-12, 02:28
- Worth noting that the Ty counter protests - Jim (fisherj08), 2016-12-11, 10:59
- That's a good question -
Eric M,
2016-12-11, 18:00
- Edit: sorry, phone doing weird things -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-11, 08:46
- I know we arent supposed to crosspost but - Mike (bart), 2016-12-11, 08:48
- The administration already dismisses the ND internet -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:42
- What relationship? - Jim (OFD), 2016-12-11, 12:18
- Only by those who "care" -
NDTerp,
2016-12-11, 08:10
- A+ for the Carlin reference. -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 08:12
- .....headcheese - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:26
- A+ for the Carlin reference. -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 08:12
- What's the endgame here? -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:02
- I don't disagree that it won't change anything. -
tex29,
2016-12-11, 09:25
- I don't think the comparison is valid -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 09:34
- I'm not sure what you mean. These alumni are attempting to -
tex29,
2016-12-11, 09:46
- You've hit on the big disconnect -
Greg,
2016-12-11, 14:13
- But there's a counterexample. -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 19:02
- Thanks Ken (and Jay). Good thoughts. - Greg, 2016-12-12, 08:32
- It's not so 1 sided- You ignore Stanford's advantages -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-11, 21:20
- Except Notre Dame routinely has a better ranked - Rob (Rakes of Mallow), 2016-12-12, 05:20
- was there a Stanford team that would have beaten Bama? -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 19:54
- That's a clever way to frame the conversation -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 20:28
- what's Stanford's "signature win" over the last five years? -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 20:33
- Jay, you're shifting my goalposts -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 20:36
- sorry -
Jay,
2016-12-12, 07:55
- Posting from phone, so this is short - Ken Fowler, 2016-12-12, 11:00
- sorry -
Jay,
2016-12-12, 07:55
- Jay, you're shifting my goalposts -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 20:36
- what's Stanford's "signature win" over the last five years? -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 20:33
- follow up -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 20:03
- I disagree with what has "defined" ND's failures -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 20:32
- I'm not trying to build up ND in this line of thinking - Jay, 2016-12-11, 20:35
- I disagree with what has "defined" ND's failures -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 20:32
- That's a clever way to frame the conversation -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 20:28
- Stanford is a cakewalk once you get in - Spesh, 2016-12-11, 19:07
- They reject your premise re: the changing times. -
San Pedro,
2016-12-11, 17:37
- I respectfully largely reject it. I don't care -
Buck Mulligan,
2016-12-11, 18:41
- an elite coach alkne would make a huge difference - San Pedro, 2016-12-11, 20:03
- A viable third-party position? Fullbacks and Field Turf? - Jason93, 2016-12-11, 18:56
- I respectfully largely reject it. I don't care -
Buck Mulligan,
2016-12-11, 18:41
- Best post on this subject that I've seen - CK08, 2016-12-11, 14:35
- But there's a counterexample. -
Ken Fowler,
2016-12-11, 19:02
- Absolutely perfect post. Well done. - Savage, 2016-12-11, 13:29
- Furthermore, - Jim (fisherj08), 2016-12-11, 09:52
- Excellent post. - ndroman21, 2016-12-11, 09:52
- It's not really debatable -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 09:51
- Neither is likely to do anything at all. Do you seriously -
tex29,
2016-12-11, 10:00
- I think a boycott campaign would be more effective -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 10:04
- The University wouldn't give a fuck. -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 13:41
- Sav, serious question - CW (Rakes), 2016-12-12, 06:45
- I don't think it would work. -
Pat (Moco),
2016-12-11, 10:56
- That is likely true - Jeff (BGS), 2016-12-11, 17:14
- I agree. But that doesn't mean other forms of protest are - tex29, 2016-12-11, 10:22
- Worth noting something like todays ad - Mike (bart), 2016-12-11, 10:16
- The University wouldn't give a fuck. -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 13:41
- Yes, I do. -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 10:03
- Significant resistance? - tex29, 2016-12-11, 10:20
- I think a boycott campaign would be more effective -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 10:04
- Neither is likely to do anything at all. Do you seriously -
tex29,
2016-12-11, 10:00
- You've hit on the big disconnect -
Greg,
2016-12-11, 14:13
- I'm not sure what you mean. These alumni are attempting to -
tex29,
2016-12-11, 09:46
- I don't think the comparison is valid -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 09:34
- Assuming he doesn't get fired I think - Mike (bart), 2016-12-11, 08:38
- A bloodless coup...nothing but smotherings. -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 08:28
- They wanna find out if Swarbrick weighs as much as a duck -
NDTerp,
2016-12-11, 08:29
- Funny! - oviedoirish, 2016-12-11, 08:32
- They wanna find out if Swarbrick weighs as much as a duck -
NDTerp,
2016-12-11, 08:29
- Barstool and Deadspin blog posts on it - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:20
- I don't disagree that it won't change anything. -
tex29,
2016-12-11, 09:25
- it'll be interesting to see - Jay, 2016-12-11, 08:01
- Pretty well done -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-11, 07:51
- Why do you think that? -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:06
- multiple hashtags - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:16
- It pretty much responds to all the criticisms of the first a -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-11, 08:16
- I agree. - oviedoirish, 2016-12-11, 08:31
- They bury their message in the bottom right of the ad -
NDTerp,
2016-12-11, 08:20
- Putting the ask right at the end seems pretty normal -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-11, 08:26
- Not realizing that they couldn't get "fightforexcellence" -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:28
- Fight4excellence would work, no? Seems prefetable - JRT, 2016-12-11, 09:07
- Ha, I didnt even notice that. That's hilarious -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-11, 08:40
- It makes it look half-assed - Pat (Moco), 2016-12-11, 10:51
- Not realizing that they couldn't get "fightforexcellence" -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:28
- Putting the ask right at the end seems pretty normal -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-11, 08:26
- Why do you think that? -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:06
- do you have a link to something? -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 07:39
- Within. -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:44
- How about we embed the ad instead of giving them pageclicks - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:15
- Here you go -
Bill,
2016-12-11, 07:42
- Still too opaque in intention. -
PMan,
2016-12-11, 08:16
- This is a no-win -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 08:36
- No, its only about the 4-8 -
KelleyCook,
2016-12-11, 14:28
- Thanks for telling me what I think and what I care about. -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 14:45
- You took this as a personal attack? - KelleyCook, 2016-12-12, 08:30
- Thanks for telling me what I think and what I care about. -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 14:45
- I was just talking about the visuals of the ad. - PMan, 2016-12-11, 08:54
- No, its only about the 4-8 -
KelleyCook,
2016-12-11, 14:28
- This is a no-win -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 08:36
- What "football traditions" are they talking about? -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:00
- Winning -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 08:12
- That's not a tradition -
NDTerp,
2016-12-11, 08:17
- Tongue was in cheek. Things are tense here. -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 08:24
- Mine was too. - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:25
- What we really need to do to embrace tradition -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 08:21
- Kick all the women back out. - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:26
- Tongue was in cheek. Things are tense here. -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 08:24
- That's not a tradition -
NDTerp,
2016-12-11, 08:17
- SYRs in the dorms - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:11
- Fullbacks -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-11, 08:05
- And snaps under center. - Bill, 2016-12-11, 08:07
- Field turf, jumbotron, Crossroads, team mass, jock music - Bill, 2016-12-11, 08:03
- Winning -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 08:12
- Just a touch dramatic - Jim (fisherj08), 2016-12-11, 07:46
- Still too opaque in intention. -
PMan,
2016-12-11, 08:16
- Within. -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:44
- Taunting? -
Bill,
2016-12-11, 07:38
- There was just no upside to address it.... -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:47
- His reaction was just fine. -
Bill,
2016-12-11, 07:51
- Agree to disagree I suppose... -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:58
- it was the perfect thing to say in that setting -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 08:03
- As I said, agree to disagree - Mobster, 2016-12-11, 08:13
- So you don't think any of the players have talked about - Bill, 2016-12-11, 08:01
- it was the perfect thing to say in that setting -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 08:03
- I think internally it does -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-11, 07:56
- Swarbrick addressed that group -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:57
- I agree - Mike (bart), 2016-12-11, 08:00
- Swarbrick addressed that group -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:57
- Agree to disagree I suppose... -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:58
- As I said below. You do when addressing a Pro ND crowd. - River, 2016-12-11, 07:50
- His reaction was just fine. -
Bill,
2016-12-11, 07:51
- There was just no upside to address it.... -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:47
- Pete Sampson is a douche of the highest order -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 07:38
- Calling Pete Sampson -
PMan,
2016-12-11, 09:55
- Pretty sure I didn't do either of the latter? - Savage, 2016-12-11, 13:45
- is part of the movement also -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 07:52
- Absolutely it is. - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 08:11
- No -
Savage,
2016-12-11, 08:03
- I saw his seat number comment the other day -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 08:06
- That was exactly the point he was trying to make - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-12-11, 10:42
- I think that is a bit of the problem. - River, 2016-12-11, 08:12
- I saw his seat number comment the other day -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 08:06
- His main point hasn't been that it's a lousy idea -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-11, 07:56
- True, but having that anonymity is perfect cover. - River, 2016-12-11, 08:15
- Exactly. - Savage, 2016-12-11, 08:11
- it's about more than Pete - Jay, 2016-12-11, 08:08
- how else will people know you Really Care? - CW (Rakes), 2016-12-11, 07:53
- Yes. - Jim (fisherj08), 2016-12-11, 07:53
- I don't think saying "this ad campaign is not a good idea" -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:45
- Agree but he is asking for those involved to share... -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:49
- But that informaiton is publicly available for political ads -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:50
- The information isn't posted in the ad itself -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:53
- Also, this isn't politics! - Jim (fisherj08), 2016-12-11, 08:20
- Why do you care what Pete Sampson has to say? -
Bill,
2016-12-11, 07:57
- I'm not keeping an enemies list or whatever... - Mobster, 2016-12-11, 08:04
- Reading between the lines, -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:58
- Prister and Sampson have both said a coaching change - Bill, 2016-12-11, 08:02
- But it's still publicly available - Jim (fisherj08), 2016-12-11, 07:55
- The information isn't posted in the ad itself -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:53
- But that informaiton is publicly available for political ads -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:50
- Agree but he is asking for those involved to share... -
Mobster,
2016-12-11, 07:49
- I think the SBT ad is fine in terms of attributions. -
Bill,
2016-12-11, 07:39
- The first one she did was given the go ahead with no check. -
River,
2016-12-11, 07:44
- He was in front of the football team and recruits -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:48
- And well he should. - River, 2016-12-11, 07:52
- He was in front of the football team and recruits -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-11, 07:48
- The first one she did was given the go ahead with no check. -
River,
2016-12-11, 07:44
- Calling Pete Sampson -
PMan,
2016-12-11, 09:55
- It's better. It's like someone read this board for - BillyGoat, 2016-12-11, 07:29