I think, as a leader, Swarbrick is forced to decide whether
To spend time, energy and effort understanding, validating and rezponding to thise criticisms, or else deciding they literally aren't worth the effort.
Even at a basic level the idea that "the medium is the message" for the antoginized set is fairly easy to intuit. On its face, to a skeptic this isn't Barack Obama being interviewed by Rachel Maddow, its Barack Obama being interviewed by Josh Earnest. I think that's the fundamental source of grousing and stink eye, and uncharitable readings flow from there.
To me, it isnt hard to see that Swarbrick does not take the NDN crowd seriously, at all. That is his choice as a leader, obviously, but then of course there are consequences. When a group values their own contributions (in terms of money, energy, attention) and perceives those contributions not to be valued, it should not be surprising that alienation and hostility result. I can see a totally logical scenario in which Swarbrick decides he can live with that, but expecting the NDN crowd to be ok with that decision is probably a bridge too far.
Complete thread:
- Swarbrick at the Echoes banquet -
Jay,
2016-12-09, 18:58
- Funny quip. -
Savage,
2016-12-09, 19:03
- I hope this is satire -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-09, 23:06
- Nice -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 09:05
- What? -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-10, 12:03
- How am I supposed to rad alt right lunatics ? -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 12:18
- a bunch of scorched earth internet bomb throwers -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-10, 12:21
- Oh I guess that's what alt right means -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 12:27
- At the risk of extending a pointless and silly exchange -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-10, 13:00
- If that was your point I agree with it -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 13:23
- Jim''s a lot of things. Disingenuous isn't on the list. -
San Pedro,
2016-12-11, 06:01
- exactly -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 08:53
- Well I disagree -
DEM,
2016-12-11, 09:13
- Having just ventured over there... -
PMan,
2016-12-11, 10:12
- Just opened up this morning's copy of the NYT - DEM, 2016-12-11, 15:13
- Having just ventured over there... -
PMan,
2016-12-11, 10:12
- Well I disagree -
DEM,
2016-12-11, 09:13
- exactly -
Jay,
2016-12-11, 08:53
- Jim''s a lot of things. Disingenuous isn't on the list. -
San Pedro,
2016-12-11, 06:01
- If that was your point I agree with it -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 13:23
- At the risk of extending a pointless and silly exchange -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-10, 13:00
- Oh I guess that's what alt right means -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 12:27
- a bunch of scorched earth internet bomb throwers -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-10, 12:21
- How am I supposed to rad alt right lunatics ? -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 12:18
- Aren't all of us University stakeholders? -
Jack,
2016-12-10, 10:28
- you managed to address -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 10:30
- And you managed to miss my point too, so we're even - Jack, 2016-12-10, 10:35
- you managed to address -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 10:30
- What? -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-10, 12:03
- Not satire, you can read my response to 99 below. -
Savage,
2016-12-09, 23:36
- I''m mystified as to where the idea comes from that - Jack, 2016-12-10, 10:12
- If you want to make the comparison -
CW (Rakes),
2016-12-10, 04:52
- I don't think any comparison is necessary -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 06:48
- Agree completely. It's going way beyond where it should - Jack, 2016-12-10, 10:32
- I don't think any comparison is necessary -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 06:48
- My political-Swarbrick thoughts: -
nedhead,
2016-12-10, 00:31
- This is really good. And it goes hand in hand with... - Greg, 2016-12-10, 14:02
- Oh yeah?!?! - Busco21, 2016-12-10, 12:07
- Outstanding post - Jack, 2016-12-10, 10:41
- This is a truly great post - JD in Portland, 2016-12-10, 10:39
- The Ubiquitous They -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-10, 05:08
- Public servants are well compensated? -
San Pedro,
2016-12-10, 05:17
- I think so - Mike (bart), 2016-12-10, 05:29
- Public servants are well compensated? -
San Pedro,
2016-12-10, 05:17
- Nice -
DEM,
2016-12-10, 09:05
- [Eye roll] You know, sometimes a joke is just a joke -
Jack,
2016-12-09, 21:06
- Indeed. I acknowledged it as such - punchy, genre-savvy, etc - Savage, 2016-12-09, 21:39
- good joke for the setting -
Jay,
2016-12-09, 21:10
- Pee Wee Herman made an identical quip -
Pete,
2016-12-10, 05:02
- yes! -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 07:24
- So annoying when celebs swipe anecdotes - Mike (bart), 2016-12-10, 07:31
- yes! -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 07:24
- Pee Wee Herman made an identical quip -
Pete,
2016-12-10, 05:02
- It's shocking really -
Bill,
2016-12-09, 20:03
- Buck Mulligan said it best - Jeff (BGS), 2016-12-09, 20:37
- What's he supposed to do? -
San Pedro,
2016-12-09, 19:49
- In fairness there are also earnest manners of response that -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-10, 05:18
- speaking of eye of the beholder -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 07:45
- I think, as a leader, Swarbrick is forced to decide whether -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-10, 08:33
- Would the result be any different? -
Bill,
2016-12-10, 09:03
- Probably not! -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-10, 09:17
- I know you're joking -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 09:22
- It isn't if you're prejudiced against Swarbrick - Mike (bart), 2016-12-10, 09:42
- I know you're joking -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 09:22
- Probably not! -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-10, 09:17
- Would the result be any different? -
Bill,
2016-12-10, 09:03
- I think, as a leader, Swarbrick is forced to decide whether -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-10, 08:33
- speaking of eye of the beholder -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 07:45
- One of the criticisms I find odd -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-09, 20:52
- I don't recall him saying any such thing in the first place - Jack, 2016-12-10, 10:48
- Don't worry. This is likely a drive by post -
Domer99,
2016-12-09, 20:50
- This really was not intended to be a drive-by. -
Savage,
2016-12-09, 21:29
- Your quote: -
Eric M,
2016-12-10, 13:42
- Come on -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 14:02
- Sorry -
Eric M,
2016-12-10, 15:34
- So let me get this straight -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 15:53
- You do know that two different people made those comments? -
Pat (Moco),
2016-12-10, 18:31
- Good burn, bro -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 19:16
- are we going to work our way out of this death spiral? -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 19:41
- I was actually trying to post in good faith. -
Pat (Moco),
2016-12-10, 21:03
- Eric's analysis showed that it was one of -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 21:50
- Brian Kelly has been National Coach of the Year twice -
scriptcomesfirst,
2016-12-11, 03:26
- We will agree to disagree -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-11, 05:33
- You're slowly walking it back -
Eric M,
2016-12-11, 06:29
- Something like that - Rob (Rakes of Mallow), 2016-12-11, 08:01
- You're slowly walking it back -
Eric M,
2016-12-11, 06:29
- There's also glossing over the Connelly numbers - NDTerp, 2016-12-11, 05:06
- We will agree to disagree -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-11, 05:33
- Brian Kelly has been National Coach of the Year twice -
scriptcomesfirst,
2016-12-11, 03:26
- yeah, I agree with that - Jay, 2016-12-10, 21:16
- Eric's analysis showed that it was one of -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 21:50
- I was actually trying to post in good faith. -
Pat (Moco),
2016-12-10, 21:03
- are we going to work our way out of this death spiral? -
Jay,
2016-12-10, 19:41
- Good burn, bro -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 19:16
- You do know that two different people made those comments? -
Pat (Moco),
2016-12-10, 18:31
- So let me get this straight -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 15:53
- Sorry -
Eric M,
2016-12-10, 15:34
- Come on -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 14:02
- Nothing is "unsalvageable" - Jack, 2016-12-10, 10:06
- Jack has thin skin? - Bill, 2016-12-10, 07:31
- good post, well-stated - Jay, 2016-12-10, 07:27
- I love this board's passion, but you're confusing 3 things. -
MHB (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 00:20
- Spot on. - River, 2016-12-10, 14:31
- It's the all or nothing approach that gets me. - Pat (Moco), 2016-12-10, 08:40
- cosign - Jay, 2016-12-10, 07:24
- Good, rational post -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-10, 06:42
- I agree and disagree. - MHB (Rakes of Mallow), 2016-12-10, 08:42
- Well stated, MHB. - Joe I, 2016-12-10, 06:04
- Your quote: -
Eric M,
2016-12-10, 13:42
- This really was not intended to be a drive-by. -
Savage,
2016-12-09, 21:29
- Yup and nor should he. - River, 2016-12-09, 19:55
- In fairness there are also earnest manners of response that -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-10, 05:18
- I hope this is satire -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-09, 23:06
- Funny quip. -
Savage,
2016-12-09, 19:03