don't disagree
by HumanRobot 
, Cybertron, Wednesday, December 07, 2016, 09:43 (2689 days ago) @ Eric M
But I think the administration kind of owns this one, given their lack of communication with the fans.
Complete thread:
- that ad ran in the Observer today -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 07:37
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- What am I missing? - Mark, 2016-12-07, 14:29
- the Rakes charity drive got equal time in the Indy Star - Jay, 2016-12-07, 14:24
- The Victors are having fun with it.
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Grantland,
2016-12-07, 12:36
- Sports Illustrated picked it up -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-07, 10:44
- oh, it'll make all the rounds -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 10:45
- You are correct it is everywhere. -
Grantland,
2016-12-07, 15:30
- As to your last sentence - Pat, 2016-12-07, 16:40
- there is a small group, like maybe 5 people -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 16:05
- Gotcha -
Grantland,
2016-12-08, 05:37
- I think the discussion in this case is fine - Jay, 2016-12-08, 06:14
- Still? How silly. -
Slainte Joe,
2016-12-07, 20:15
- It goes both ways -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-07, 20:04
- revised response - Jay, 2016-12-08, 06:15
- False equivalence. - Slainte Joe, 2016-12-07, 20:16
- When the football word "contain" became a source of angst - Buck Mulligan, 2016-12-07, 17:41
- Gotcha -
Grantland,
2016-12-08, 05:37
- Haugh, Hamilton, etc.... all licking their chops. -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 11:00
- What is most disappointing... -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 11:56
- Revelation 3:16 -
MTIrish,
2016-12-07, 11:58
- Get the bucket ready... -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 12:05
- I don't put Kevin in that category -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 13:08
- oh come on, kevin's an asshole - JN, 2016-12-07, 14:11
- I like him quite a bit. - Joe, 2016-12-07, 13:39
- Ditto. -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 13:28
- there's only one Kevin here that I know of -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 13:29
- There was another -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 13:32
- HTown! -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 13:54
- 95% sure he penned this.... -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 14:36
- nope, that's our Kev -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 16:11
- Man, its depressing to read the replies to that post -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-12-07, 14:46
- I think there were threads like that down the stretch -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 16:13
- Sure - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2016-12-07, 16:38
- I think there were threads like that down the stretch -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 16:13
- nope, that's our Kev
- 95% sure he penned this.... -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 14:36
- HTown! -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 13:54
- There was another -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 13:32
- there's only one Kevin here that I know of
- Absolutely agree -
Pat,
2016-12-07, 13:21
- I don't put Kevin in that category -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 13:08
- Get the bucket ready... -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 12:05
- Revelation 3:16
- What is most disappointing... -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 11:56
- You are correct it is everywhere. -
Grantland,
2016-12-07, 15:30
- oh, it'll make all the rounds
- my ad -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 10:30
- Hmm. - Joe, 2016-12-07, 11:27
- Mine: Go Irish! Beat Dawgs! - Grantland, 2016-12-07, 11:07
- Where do I sign? -
Bryan (IrishCavan),
2016-12-07, 11:05
- Pretty good - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 11:02
- Works for me. With the added benefit of it looking like -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 10:39
- I haven't added the blinking lights and pom salutes yet -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 10:41
- If ChestertonLep could design a better ad than you... -
Brendan,
2016-12-07, 11:22
- Porn salutes? In a student newspaper?? - Jack, 2016-12-07, 10:43
- If ChestertonLep could design a better ad than you...
- I haven't added the blinking lights and pom salutes yet
- Fair. Well put-together. Concise. Clear. -
Greg,
2016-12-07, 10:34
- Do the students even read the 'Print Edition'? -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 10:28
- Last time I was on campus (VT game), the print copies - CK08, 2016-12-07, 10:30
- Rumor is that this ad is airing tomorrow -
PootND,
2016-12-07, 09:50
- "arrests" -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:58
- Did you know it's illegal to frolic nude in Wrigleyville? -
NDTerp,
2016-12-07, 10:34
- Did you know it's illegal to frolic nude in Wrigleyville?
- Out of curiosity... -
Brendan,
2016-12-07, 09:56
- ~45 minutes -
PootND,
2016-12-07, 09:58
- That's about 900% longer than I would've expected - Brendan, 2016-12-07, 10:01
- ~45 minutes -
PootND,
2016-12-07, 09:58
- Amazing. -
PAK,
2016-12-07, 09:52
- "arrests"
- Should have put it in Viewpoint, signed by 4 Lewis freshmen -
irishoutsider,
2016-12-07, 09:37
- [fire emoji] -
domer.mq,
2016-12-07, 09:51
- [fire emoji]
- Any trademark Lawyers in here? -
Grantland,
2016-12-07, 09:23
- the inclusion of that is reprehensible - Jay, 2016-12-07, 09:41
- Not a trademark lawyer, but I'm guessing fair use. -
MattG,
2016-12-07, 09:34
- FU is, in my experience, more limited than one would -
BillyGoat,
2016-12-07, 09:35
- Whether or not it is fair use, "FU" is appropriate for this -
Jeff (BGS),
2016-12-07, 10:11
- Whether or not it is fair use, "FU" is appropriate for this
- FU is, in my experience, more limited than one would -
BillyGoat,
2016-12-07, 09:35
- Wait. That was the final design? -
MattG,
2016-12-07, 09:19
- That was my gut reaction, too. - Mike (Max), 2016-12-07, 14:20
- Your knee-jerk reaction is exactly on point - Domer99, 2016-12-07, 09:47
- further on cherrypicking, context, etc -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:31
- That's pretty infuriating -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2016-12-07, 09:41
- it's also used to trigger a comparison between - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 09:35
- That's pretty infuriating
- Exactly. Agreed all around. -
Brendan,
2016-12-07, 09:27
- They spent tens of minutes on the design, Matt. -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-07, 09:20
- Did no one have the MS Office version with Publisher? - MattG, 2016-12-07, 09:26
- We should demand better -
Eric M,
2016-12-07, 09:08
- don't disagree -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-07, 09:43
- That wasn't in the ad - Eric M, 2016-12-07, 10:44
- I don't think that's exactly right either -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 09:52
- that might all be true -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-07, 09:58
- Do you think the questions would be all that different? -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 10:01
- sometimes, style counts as much as substance -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-07, 11:36
- Think you are confusing the punch line with substance -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 11:41
- Think you are confusing the punch line with substance
- sometimes, style counts as much as substance -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-07, 11:36
- Do you think the questions would be all that different? -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 10:01
- that might all be true -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-07, 09:58
- Notre Dame: Fighting for a more creative fan base! -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 09:40
- Notre Dame strives for excellence in all things -
CK08,
2016-12-07, 09:32
- it doesn't even demand the firings! -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 09:37
- It's like Leslie Knope's campaign ad against Bobby - BillyGoat, 2016-12-07, 09:41
- it doesn't even demand the firings! -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 09:37
- don't disagree -
HumanRobot,
2016-12-07, 09:43
- Bannon would be proud. -
Grantland,
2016-12-07, 09:06
- 1. I don't know if I understand this -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 09:11
- It twists facts. That is all I was getting at. -
Grantland,
2016-12-07, 09:15
- eh, I think the facts of the case are fine -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 09:17
- You can't be that obvious about it. -
MattG,
2016-12-07, 09:23
- that's a good point - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 09:28
- You can't be that obvious about it. -
MattG,
2016-12-07, 09:23
- eh, I think the facts of the case are fine -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 09:17
- It twists facts. That is all I was getting at.
- 1. I don't know if I understand this -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 09:11
- I can't find the gofundme page. Is it gone? -
Grantland,
2016-12-07, 09:02
- GoFundMe effectively shut it down - Brendan, 2016-12-07, 09:14
- Honestly, it made me laugh -
Jeff (BGS),
2016-12-07, 08:24
- Someone set it against the C4C letter the other day -
Brendan,
2016-12-07, 08:53
- I'm getting a weird image from that - Jack, 2016-12-07, 14:00
- This sums up my feelings nicely -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 09:04
- They should revise "embarrassing slobberings" to - BillyGoat, 2016-12-07, 09:42
- Someone set it against the C4C letter the other day -
Brendan,
2016-12-07, 08:53
- In the spirit of continuing to celebrate ND's poor - Domer99, 2016-12-07, 08:11
- Many people are saying it's great -
NDTerp,
2016-12-07, 07:53
- I'll add this was a Trump joke -
NDTerp,
2016-12-07, 09:16
- Are there any red hats being made in Chee-ina? -
Jack,
2016-12-07, 10:13
- Sad! -
PAK,
2016-12-07, 10:01
- Unfair! -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:47
- Chris got it -
Brendan,
2016-12-07, 09:41
- Are there any red hats being made in Chee-ina?
- I suspect that is because some of those people -
hobbs,
2016-12-07, 08:18
- I honestly think the most important point -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 08:36
- I'm OK with ridiculing it. -
MattG,
2016-12-07, 09:33
- I started a gofundme for a billboard facing their billboard -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:44
- I started a gofundme for a billboard facing their billboard
- I think Jay and others have hit upon my point -
hobbs,
2016-12-07, 09:14
- To this point, the "letter" (I believe a google doc) that -
BillyGoat,
2016-12-07, 09:38
- text -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:50
- P.S. I am not a crank -
professor,
2016-12-07, 16:49
- oh balls - professor, 2016-12-07, 16:48
- Leave no noun untouched by an adjective -
JRT,
2016-12-07, 15:39
- Clocks in at over 1300 words. - Pete, 2016-12-07, 10:35
- it's not that bad -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 10:05
- I can handle this. -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 12:14
- Brevity is beautiful. - Coach Gillespie, 2016-12-07, 10:35
- The substance is fine, but there are parts where the - Bryan (IrishCavan), 2016-12-07, 10:13
- agree -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 10:06
- I can handle this.
- If this is the way our alums write, -
CK08,
2016-12-07, 09:53
- Other than the linebreaks, it was impossible to identify - BillyGoat, 2016-12-07, 09:54
- P.S. I am not a crank
- text -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:50
- To this point, the "letter" (I believe a google doc) that -
BillyGoat,
2016-12-07, 09:38
- I have a question on this point -
Domer99,
2016-12-07, 08:49
- I listened to it the other day -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:16
- I think an enormous factor in how one feels about the -
BillyGoat,
2016-12-07, 09:46
- I'm with you - CK08, 2016-12-07, 09:50
- I think an enormous factor in how one feels about the -
BillyGoat,
2016-12-07, 09:46
- Tone and packaging -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 08:56
- Doesn't he do a frequent (weekly?) podcast with Nolan? -
CK08,
2016-12-07, 09:44
- Absolutely. - Bill, 2016-12-07, 09:46
- Doesn't he do a frequent (weekly?) podcast with Nolan? -
CK08,
2016-12-07, 09:44
- the interview portion transcripts I've seen could, - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 08:55
- I listened to it the other day -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:16
- Its poor design obscures the message -
irishvol,
2016-12-07, 08:48
- I don't disagree -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 08:57
- It's cherry-picked stats and quotes -
CW (Rakes),
2016-12-07, 09:02
- You know what embarrasses me? -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 10:34
- Sincere questions on this comment - Domer99, 2016-12-07, 12:48
- I'm not saying you have to like it or not -
Jack,
2016-12-07, 11:27
- I understand it is a multi-purpose facility. -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 11:33
- It's financed primarily with donations - Brendan, 2016-12-07, 12:19
- I understand it is a multi-purpose facility. -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 11:33
- plus, what kind of ND fan lines up with the NCAA -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:24
- When Zahm resident Evan O'Leary got busted for pot... - Domer99, 2016-12-07, 12:22
- And based on their 'off the field' accountability demands -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 09:27
- That's what drives me crazy about the knee-jerk reaction - BillyGoat, 2016-12-07, 10:14
- Your "Top 10 Team" is also cherry picking -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-07, 09:15
- Also, facts. -
NDTerp,
2016-12-07, 10:49
- What facts are inaccurate? -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-08, 04:02
- What facts are inaccurate?
- I'm less interested in the polls -
CW (Rakes),
2016-12-07, 09:23
- That is called cherry picking your facts -
Rob (Rakes of Mallow),
2016-12-08, 04:03
- That is called cherry picking your facts
- I agree -
irishvol,
2016-12-07, 09:17
- I agree with this -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 09:15
- Also, facts.
- All it's going to accomplish -
Jim (fisherj08),
2016-12-07, 09:04
- That's a good way of putting it, because - Jack, 2016-12-07, 10:52
- You know what embarrasses me? -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 10:34
- It's cherry-picked stats and quotes -
CW (Rakes),
2016-12-07, 09:02
- I don't disagree -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 08:57
- Where's the pride of authorship? -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 08:44
- So at least Kelly's familiar with that notion. -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 08:50
- Maybe he does. - Bill, 2016-12-07, 09:11
- So at least Kelly's familiar with that notion.
- the ad is patently embarrassing -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 08:40
- I offered my services. - MTIrish, 2016-12-07, 12:20
- Exactly; it's shockingly amateurish -
JD in Portland,
2016-12-07, 09:15
- I hope that you're right about the ad's impact, but - oviedoirish, 2016-12-07, 10:53
- the self-importance point is a good one - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 09:26
- Why wait? -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 08:49
- I'm saying make sure it's a solid before sending -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:03
- I mean, even another 2 hours could have really cleaned it up - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 09:05
- I'm saying make sure it's a solid before sending -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 09:03
- I'm OK with ridiculing it. -
MattG,
2016-12-07, 09:33
- I honestly think the most important point -
Buffalo,
2016-12-07, 08:36
- It's bigly. -
Chris,
2016-12-07, 08:13
- The design is top notch. -
irishvol,
2016-12-07, 08:08
- Phil Steele thinks they did not cram enough in. -
PMan,
2016-12-07, 08:27
- they should have just made an ad of 4 mocked up NDTrump - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 08:57
- PMan: TPG POY 16-17 VHT -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 08:46
- Maybe upgrade from Windows 95 before doing the next one. -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 08:22
- Phil Steele thinks they did not cram enough in.
- Lots of dumb people in the world. -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 08:01
- Sad! -
NDTerp,
2016-12-07, 08:04
- Sad!
- I'll add this was a Trump joke -
NDTerp,
2016-12-07, 09:16
- image within - Mike (bart), 2016-12-07, 07:51
- If nothing else, I know who their favorite wrestler is. - Chris, 2016-12-07, 07:48
- as somebody else mentioned -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 07:46
- And of course, it is running the week of the "Echoes" - Bill, 2016-12-07, 07:50
- I'm surprised no attribution was required -
HullieAndMikes,
2016-12-07, 07:48
- well, regardless of who designed it and paid for it -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 08:08
- They should have put their name on it, then. -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 08:21
- When you write something, sign your name... - BillyGoat, 2016-12-07, 08:35
- why didn't they? -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 08:31
- It might hurt future book sales. -
Joe,
2016-12-07, 11:36
- There's even space at the bottom! -
CW (Rakes),
2016-12-07, 08:33
- I don't even see the motivation to anonymity -
Mike (bart),
2016-12-07, 08:58
- I doubt it was a conscious decision - Brendan, 2016-12-07, 12:14
- I don't even see the motivation to anonymity
- It might hurt future book sales.
- They should have put their name on it, then.
- Its gutless. -
hobbs,
2016-12-07, 07:58
- well, regardless of who designed it and paid for it -
Jay,
2016-12-07, 08:08
- Anonymously, of course. -
Bill,
2016-12-07, 07:44