Trade value is meaningless in a pennant race.

by ndroman21, Sunday, April 19, 2015, 14:18 (3285 days ago) @ MattG
edited by ndroman21, Sunday, April 19, 2015, 14:21

I think the Mets are more of a contender today than are the Cubs, and if I wanted to contend today, I would not trade any of the three guys you listed for Soler or Bryant. It might be a toss up with Rizzo.

The Cubs organization is stocked, but they have almost zero proven high end position players. Rizzo and Castro are getting to that level. Soler and Bryant have less than a half season in The Show between them.

You wrote about trading organizations today, not who has more trade value.

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OT: as a cubs fan - Busco21, 2015-04-18, 19:50
- Addison Russell just got the call to Chicago! - MattG, 2015-04-20, 21:46
  - Then the next move for the Cubs - BillyGoat, 2015-04-21, 05:02
- Carlos Rodon is on his way to the South Side! - Jim (fisherj08), 2015-04-19, 19:17
  - That kid is awesome. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 19:21
    - Yes, that's exactly the point being argued. - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 19:52
      - Ok, enlighten me. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 20:02
        
        OK, can't disagree with *that* portion of the discussion. - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 20:13
- Meanwhile, as Cubs fans celebrate their 1-game - Bill, 2015-04-18, 20:04
  - Friar Fever - Jay, 2015-04-19, 18:56
  - 10-2 over here - KelleyCook, 2015-04-19, 17:28
    - Tigers look great - JD in Portland, 2015-04-19, 19:02
      - Getting Iglesias back and adding Cespedes is so great. - PAK, 2015-04-20, 06:05
      - Soria is better than Nathan - MattG, 2015-04-19, 19:20
        
        Joe Nathan is my least fave Tiger since Juan Gonzalez - JD in Portland, 2015-04-20, 08:17
        
        He's had a great career, but he should hang it up. - MattG, 2015-04-20, 09:05
  - Costly win today - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 13:15
  - Mets have a good thing coming together. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 08:23
    - That's pretty hyperbolic - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 13:13
      - It's not hyperbolic. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 13:57
        
        Wait, you were serious? - Bill, 2015-04-19, 18:31
        
        Which Met are you high on? - MattG, 2015-04-19, 19:19
        
        Position by position - Bill, 2015-04-19, 19:43
        
        Performance now or contracts? - KGB, 2015-04-20, 08:33
        
        Thank you. - MattG, 2015-04-20, 09:06
        
        That isn't the hypothetical. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 20:05
        
        Who cares? - Bill, 2015-04-19, 20:14
        
        Well, as a Mets fan I disagree with your statement - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 14:18
        
        Completely agree. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:24
        
        Vegas odds are longer on the Mets than Cubs. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 14:30
        
        Older? - Brendan, 2015-04-19, 18:09
        
        In this thread, someone says no to Bryant-for-Cuddyer. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 18:15
        
        The problem is the idea - Brendan, 2015-04-19, 18:19
        
        An issue is being conflated - Domer99, 2015-04-19, 19:56
        
        Thanks. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 20:08
        
        Exactly. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 18:32
        
        The one thing to take away from the Mets' start - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 14:47
        
        But if that happens, anything can happen in the playoffs. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:50
        
        No doubt - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 15:48
        
        The Cubs are probably the 2nd most public team behind NYY - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 14:35
        
        Then look at any projection system. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 14:40
        
        Vegas odds are about evening out the money. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:33
        
        I don't think its that clear cut. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:02
        
        I'm not seeing that at all. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 14:14
        
        Trade value is meaningless in a pennant race. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:18
        
        You wouldn't trade Wheeler for Bryant? - MattG, 2015-04-19, 14:21
        
        You said any position player on the roster. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:30
        
        It just fundamentally misunderstands player value. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 14:35
        
        I don't think in those terms with MLB guys. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:43
        
        Wait the injury prone 30+ Cuddyer? - JN, 2015-04-19, 20:09
        
        Cuddyer is 36. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 14:46
        
        I realize. And it's not that I, myself, .... - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:53
        
        Cuddyer is a LF/1B. Bryant is a 3B. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 16:06
        
        Look, let's just agree to disagree on it being a sure thing, - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 16:23
        
        Ok, I guess. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 17:26
        
        Luck and Wiggins are in their first week in the bigs? - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 17:48
        
        They certainly were recently. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 18:13
        
        Because you're changing the exercise. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 18:31
        
        Familiarity bias is exactly the issue. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 18:46
        
        So since Mets' execs are likely to suffer from some of - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 19:12
        
        Would they suffer though? - Domer99, 2015-04-19, 20:09
        
        Not so much anymore - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 20:13
        
        Which is where I am as well. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 20:29
        
        Sure, maybe. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 19:24
      - While it is pretty hyperbolic... - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 13:30
        
        Boy I sure don't remember saying that the Cubs prospects - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2015-04-19, 13:34
        
        Right, because your post was a glowing endorsement.. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 13:49
    - Lester has me pretty worried right now. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 12:10
      - Betting on a 30+ year old pitcher - Jim (fisherj08), 2015-04-19, 14:19
        
        Thought we'd see 3 or 4 good years, at least. - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 14:55
      - Lester's FIP is 1.64 - MattG, 2015-04-19, 12:27
        
        No HR other than the monster he gave up to Kemp today... - ndroman21, 2015-04-19, 12:38
        
        Dang, I didn't even know the game was on. - MattG, 2015-04-19, 12:41
  - Listen - Busco21, 2015-04-18, 20:14
    - I remember a time - HumanRobot, 2015-04-19, 13:58
    - By all means, carry on. - Bill, 2015-04-18, 20:19
      - I have good news for you - Busco21, 2015-04-18, 20:25

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Trade value is meaningless in a pennant race.