Well what do you mean by "win big"? .748 isn't winning big

by Ken Fowler, Saturday, December 06, 2014, 10:34 (3422 days ago) @ FunkDoctorSpock

At least not what I thought you meant, which is regularly in the top-10, and almost always in the top-15.

And one BCS/NY6 appearance in 5 years isn't winning big at ND. The two other appearances were as the winner of a down Big East.

His offense has never shown itself to be consistently proficient against Power 5 defenses. The one year he excelled at Notre Dame was when he deviated the most from his offensive philosophy. He's got an immense amount of skill on offense here, in year 5, and the offense still isn't particularly impressive.

I just could not imagine him regularly competing for SEC titles. Maybe in the Big Ten.

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#Big Picture -- feel free to add here. - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 11:51
- Biggest limitation - Eric M, 2014-12-05, 18:02
  - bravo! - HumanRobot, 2014-12-06, 09:36
  - A+ - Pat (Moco), 2014-12-06, 09:00
  - Thought-provoking. Thanks Eric! - Greg, 2014-12-06, 08:32
  - if you think about it, it's amazing we've won as much - Jay, 2014-12-06, 08:17
    - For all of Brian Kelly's fault... - FunkDoctorSpock, 2014-12-06, 09:04
      - Now: Maybe; 5 years ago: Yes - Rob (Rakes of Mallow), 2014-12-06, 13:15
      - Yes. - Ken Fowler, 2014-12-06, 09:53
        
        Fair enough. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2014-12-06, 10:29
        
        Well what do you mean by "win big"? .748 isn't winning big - Ken Fowler, 2014-12-06, 10:34
        
        Fine. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2014-12-06, 10:45
        
        You seem angry about this - Ken Fowler, 2014-12-06, 10:51
        
        Not angry at all. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2014-12-06, 10:57
        
        I also replied based on reading the pre-edit - Ken Fowler, 2014-12-06, 11:00
        
        Well then, in that regard, we agree. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2014-12-06, 11:03
        
        I think it's possible but we just don't know - HumanRobot, 2014-12-06, 10:47
        
        Of course. - FunkDoctorSpock, 2014-12-06, 10:49
      - I bet he'd be successful at other schools - HumanRobot, 2014-12-06, 09:42
  - Great post. And I'd add - Bill, 2014-12-06, 07:43
    - Do ND players have different soscio-economic backgrounds - Flann, 2014-12-06, 11:02
  - I can buy that. Good post. - Rob (Rakes of Mallow), 2014-12-06, 06:23
  - Wonderful post! - Geoff, 2014-12-06, 06:19
  - YUP. - KGB, 2014-12-06, 06:00
  - Excellent. - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 21:19
  - Very good. - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-12-05, 18:05
- final question before I go drinking - HumanRobot, 2014-12-05, 14:45
  - Your last sentence is what Brian Kelly really wants to be - CK08, 2014-12-05, 14:49
- Something I've wondered about - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-12-05, 14:20
  - This may sound like blasphemy - CK08, 2014-12-05, 14:50
  - I think it's both - Greg, 2014-12-05, 14:35
- here's a question - HumanRobot, 2014-12-05, 13:55
  - I think so. - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 14:03
- I think our fanbase is a disadvantage. - Pat (Moco), 2014-12-05, 13:46
  - If ndn didn't fire TyWill, ndn didn't bother anybody. - Ken Fowler, 2014-12-05, 14:32
    - I like mute points - Jack, 2014-12-05, 14:34
      - Better than a moo point - CK08, 2014-12-05, 14:48
  - Amazing. - NDTerp, 2014-12-05, 14:17
  - Oh, I don't think our fanbase is all that different - Bill, 2014-12-05, 14:10
    - Agreed. - Rob (Rakes of Mallow), 2014-12-05, 17:59
    - Agree 100%. I don't think we're different at all - Jack, 2014-12-05, 14:30
  - Perfect. - BillyGoat, 2014-12-05, 14:03
  - We're roughly Texas Tech in win % over the last 20 years. - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 14:00
    - Do I read this correctly? - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 14:07
      - Answer: it's Lubbock, Texas - Jack, 2014-12-05, 14:33
        
        Answer - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 16:08
        
        Hey! - Jack, 2014-12-05, 16:40
        
        also - Jay, 2014-12-05, 17:20
        
        I want to let you know we're laying down some Jack rules - Jay, 2014-12-05, 16:48
        
        For #3, because of Kevin - Pat (Moco), 2014-12-05, 17:03
        
        I sure hope so. - Joe, 2014-12-05, 17:31
        
        I got stabbed in Calcutta once. Kevin saved my life - Jay, 2014-12-05, 17:28
        
        I wish I ruled half as much as Pagoda. - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 21:18
  - bravo - Supe, 2014-12-05, 13:58
- Is being a Catholic institution a disadvantage? - Grantland, 2014-12-05, 13:11
  - Jesus was a football player - Jay, 2014-12-05, 15:41
    - I thought He was a futbol player. - Grantland, 2014-12-06, 06:40
  - I know coaches will explicitly lie about it. - Jim (fisherj08), 2014-12-05, 13:24
  - It can be both. - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 13:13
- What does 'lack of institutional commitment" mean? - Bill, 2014-12-05, 12:34
  - I think you could put "institutional control" at one of the - BillyGoat, 2014-12-05, 13:05
  - Million dollar question - Eric M, 2014-12-05, 13:00
    - It means.... - River, 2014-12-05, 13:09
      - You are correct, sir - Jack, 2014-12-05, 13:43
  - Those types of phrases are what I'm trying to get at. - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 12:38
    - I agree. It's really not that complex - Jack, 2014-12-05, 13:48
    - Specifics on that - Buffalo, 2014-12-05, 13:01
- some other disadvantages - HumanRobot, 2014-12-05, 12:33
  - I never once heard that with respect to point #4. - Buffalo, 2014-12-05, 13:03
    - Ditto. For crying out loud we had Tony Rice 25 years ago - Jack, 2014-12-05, 14:41
    - I haven't either and it's incredibly bizarre - CK08, 2014-12-05, 14:09
      - here you go - HumanRobot, 2014-12-05, 14:40
        
        I like how, in that thread from over two years ago - CK08, 2014-12-05, 15:19
        
        And who exactly are those Nobel laureates? - Jack, 2014-12-05, 14:42
        
        Top. Men. - BillyGoat, 2014-12-05, 14:48
      - Assuming Monty VG's scholarship goes to someone else - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2014-12-05, 14:23
- thoughts on yours - HumanRobot, 2014-12-05, 12:21
  - I think that "academic demands" - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2014-12-05, 12:37
- can you post the text to streamline replies? - HumanRobot, 2014-12-05, 12:02
  - The topic was just: what are ND's five biggest limitations - Kevin, 2014-12-05, 12:17

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Well what do you mean by "win big"? .748 isn't winning big