12 just seems really late to me
When I was 9-11, I would have been extremely bored in leagues that didn't keep score. So would pretty much all of my friends.
Complete thread:
- A soccer note -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 08:15
- Not to put too fine a point on it -
IrishGuard,
2014-07-25, 07:04
- Is baseball? -
Greg,
2014-07-25, 07:47
- Baseball is in a world of hurt -
crazychester,
2014-07-25, 08:17
- Somewhat related... - Jim (OFD), 2014-07-25, 08:26
- Baseball is in a world of hurt -
crazychester,
2014-07-25, 08:17
- Is baseball? -
Greg,
2014-07-25, 07:47
- Well, for all the dudes in this thread .... -
Puck52,
2014-07-24, 13:50
- Great post imo. -
Mark,
2014-07-24, 15:15
- Very true -- we required that they each ... -
Puck52,
2014-07-24, 15:50
- From experience there is only one problem with that. - River, 2014-07-24, 16:12
- Very true -- we required that they each ... -
Puck52,
2014-07-24, 15:50
- Thanks. Two questions and an explanation -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 14:02
- a few thoughts -
Mark,
2014-07-24, 15:06
- Thanks! A couple thoughts. -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 15:19
- On No. 2, if you want to be heartened, check out Cromwell - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 15:58
- I wonder how much of that - Mark, 2014-07-24, 15:26
- Thanks! A couple thoughts. -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 15:19
- A few thoughts -
Puck52,
2014-07-24, 14:41
- I like your ideas - Greg, 2014-07-24, 14:50
- a few thoughts -
Mark,
2014-07-24, 15:06
- Great post imo. -
Mark,
2014-07-24, 15:15
- To be fair, MLS teams often do well in these friendlies -
HCE,
2014-07-24, 09:01
- Bear in mind that the European teams... -
ndroman21,
2014-07-24, 09:06
- Indeed,which is why these friendlies should be taken - HCE, 2014-07-24, 11:33
- Bear in mind that the European teams... -
ndroman21,
2014-07-24, 09:06
- What happened yesterday better open some eyes in the MLS. -
River,
2014-07-24, 08:42
- Not only would I not keep score... - Greg, 2014-07-24, 09:16
- After watching Chicago play last night... - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 08:58
- CASL does that here in Raleigh. -
Chris,
2014-07-24, 08:49
- Good. - River, 2014-07-24, 09:22
- Don't keep score until middle school? -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 08:45
- My son's U9 coach has an approach I like. - Kevin, 2014-07-24, 10:42
- Essentially, yes. - River, 2014-07-24, 09:18
- The tactics that win games in U9 don't develop players. -
ndroman21,
2014-07-24, 08:51
- Maybe other rule changes then? -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 09:15
- IMO the best way to go is to keep score and make -
BillyGoat,
2014-07-24, 09:23
- "The world" does not keep score -
ndphilo,
2014-07-24, 10:47
- There are two different things -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:50
- that's not the world keeping score -
Spesh,
2014-07-24, 11:00
- I've lost a hell of a lot more than I've won -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:04
- I like the idea of not officially keeping score. -
Kevin,
2014-07-24, 12:32
- I also like the idea of no trophies - Greg, 2014-07-24, 12:49
- I like the idea of not officially keeping score. -
Kevin,
2014-07-24, 12:32
- I've lost a hell of a lot more than I've won -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:04
- No, that is people keeping score -
ndphilo,
2014-07-24, 11:00
- On a broad scale -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:03
- That's also not score keeping -
ndphilo,
2014-07-24, 11:11
- I guess I'm not talking about being a good winner -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:18
- Here's hoping you win! - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 11:37
- I guess I'm not talking about being a good winner -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:18
- That's also not score keeping -
ndphilo,
2014-07-24, 11:11
- On a broad scale -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:03
- that's not the world keeping score -
Spesh,
2014-07-24, 11:00
- There are two different things -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:50
- "The world" does not keep score -
ndphilo,
2014-07-24, 10:47
- Interesting -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 09:19
- In order to be employed, someone is judging us -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 09:25
- Here's my thought -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:13
- I just think we need to change what it means to score - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:34
- This seems truthy -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:32
- I can only speak for myself -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:38
- How can you say this? -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:41
- I whole-heartedly agree with the benefits of scorekeeping - crazychester, 2014-07-24, 10:47
- No one -
Spesh,
2014-07-24, 10:45
- Keeping score can equal praise for effort -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:46
- Keeping score in a game so reliant on teamwork -
Kevin,
2014-07-24, 10:57
- Is your coach named Chuck Martin? - Tim, 2014-07-24, 12:10
- I like your coach a lot - Greg, 2014-07-24, 11:03
- Again, agreed - crazychester, 2014-07-24, 10:52
- Keeping score in a game so reliant on teamwork -
Kevin,
2014-07-24, 10:57
- Keeping score can equal praise for effort -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:46
- Isn't half the world bitching about "entitled millenials"? -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:44
- Or do they just show up because they know they won't "win" -
ndphilo,
2014-07-24, 10:56
- We don't have to emphasize score keeping -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:00
- The alternative ignores the score -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 11:09
- Playing is fun. Winning is more fun. -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 11:23
- Winning is fun when you're old enough to know -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 11:28
- I recall my kids' teams all taking their losses .... - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 18:26
- Winning is fun when you're old enough to know -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 11:28
- this really isn't that hard - what are the learning targets? -
Spesh,
2014-07-24, 11:20
- Winning is one of the …. - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 22:05
- Ken's idea would achieve both - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:25
- Playing is fun. Winning is more fun. -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 11:23
- The alternative ignores the score -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 11:09
- What happened to both/and? -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 10:58
- Sure - ndphilo, 2014-07-24, 11:08
- We don't have to emphasize score keeping -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:00
- They may be. But like most PopPsy bullshit, - Dylan, 2014-07-24, 10:48
- Or do they just show up because they know they won't "win" -
ndphilo,
2014-07-24, 10:56
- How can you say this? -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:41
- I think it teaches kids... -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 10:35
- I was the smallest kid on almost any field, even in HS -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:42
- How many did quit? -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:45
- I honestly can't think of one - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:58
- How many did quit? -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:45
- That's a parent problem, not a sports problem -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 10:42
- I love this line -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 10:47
- 12 just seems really late to me -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:53
- Are you sure? How many such leagues did you play in? -
JN,
2014-07-24, 11:10
- I agree with almost everything you wrote -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:16
- Not quite - JN, 2014-07-24, 11:27
- I agree with almost everything you wrote -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 11:16
- But... - Greg, 2014-07-24, 10:59
- Are you sure? How many such leagues did you play in? -
JN,
2014-07-24, 11:10
- But your argument goes further than that -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 10:52
- Let's see -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 10:57
- Kids can't be competitive at 11 years old? -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 10:59
- Why do they need to be? -
River,
2014-07-24, 11:15
- Because it's enjoyable -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 11:24
- I get that, but so is just playing. -
River,
2014-07-24, 11:46
- I think the worry about HS soccer is a tempest ... - Puck52, 2014-07-24, 18:32
- I get that, but so is just playing. -
River,
2014-07-24, 11:46
- Because it's enjoyable -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 11:24
- Have to draw a line somewhere -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 11:05
- That's not true for Ken and I - CK08, 2014-07-24, 11:06
- THEY *COMPETED* FOR THAT EGG - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 11:06
- Why do they need to be? -
River,
2014-07-24, 11:15
- Kids can't be competitive at 11 years old? -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 10:59
- Let's see -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 10:57
- 12 just seems really late to me -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:53
- I love this line -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 10:47
- I was the smallest kid on almost any field, even in HS -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:42
- I can only speak for myself -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:38
- ~75% of boys keep score anyway, across all sports. -
Buck Mulligan,
2014-07-24, 09:42
- This. -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:15
- Chicken and egg -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:35
- If the six year olds had never played in a keep-score game -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:40
- By incessant chatter from overweening parents -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:42
- That's a parent problem. -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:47
- Um -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 10:54
- So should we stop talking ND scores with kids? -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 10:55
- How do you get that? -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 11:06
- The subthread leads to that pretty readily - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 11:08
- How do you get that? -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 11:06
- So should we stop talking ND scores with kids? -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 10:55
- uh, ALL OF THEM -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:52
- But that's what you're doing - Ken Fowler, 2014-07-24, 10:54
- Um -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 10:54
- That's a parent problem. -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:47
- By incessant chatter from overweening parents -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:42
- If the six year olds had never played in a keep-score game -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:40
- Then let the kids keep score in their heads - Greg, 2014-07-24, 10:32
- Chicken and egg -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 10:35
- This. -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:15
- I'm not sure kids need to learn that at 10 years old. -
ndroman21,
2014-07-24, 09:32
- I think they do -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:20
- practice vs. games, natch. - Buck Mulligan, 2014-07-24, 10:36
- Bingo. -
River,
2014-07-24, 09:34
- We're in complete agreement. - ndroman21, 2014-07-24, 09:40
- I think they do -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:20
- Hey Johnny, you scored 6 goals today. You rule! -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 09:28
- 12-13 is too late though - CK08, 2014-07-24, 10:18
- That about sums it up. - River, 2014-07-24, 09:42
- Here's my thought -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 10:13
- In order to be employed, someone is judging us -
Ken Fowler,
2014-07-24, 09:25
- IMO the best way to go is to keep score and make -
BillyGoat,
2014-07-24, 09:23
- Maybe other rule changes then? -
CK08,
2014-07-24, 09:15
- The Galaxy? - Chris, 2014-07-24, 08:33
- Homerist comment on Manchester United -
Pat (Moco),
2014-07-24, 08:20
- God bless David Moyes. -
tex29,
2014-07-24, 08:22
- Your mother was a hamster. - Pat (Moco), 2014-07-24, 10:43
- God bless David Moyes. -
tex29,
2014-07-24, 08:22
- And yet, guys like Besler and Zusi chose to stay at home -
Jim (OFD),
2014-07-24, 08:19
- I tend to think that... -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 08:25
- I'd say our best players have a duty to answer -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 08:28
- I don't know that's it's a desire not to play the best... -
ndroman21,
2014-07-24, 08:46
- The league is much closer to buying than selling now - irishoutsider, 2014-07-24, 10:49
- I don't know that's it's a desire not to play the best... -
ndroman21,
2014-07-24, 08:46
- I'd say our best players have a duty to answer -
Dylan,
2014-07-24, 08:28
- I tend to think that... -
Greg,
2014-07-24, 08:25
- Not to put too fine a point on it -
IrishGuard,
2014-07-25, 07:04