Which is your beef: our field looks bad or plays bad

by Tim, Chicago, IL, Thursday, December 19, 2013, 14:17 (3773 days ago) @ NDTex

I mean, if you had to pick only one.

With respect to looks, I think a torn natural grass field still looks preferable to me than a fake one. It's real. Again, it's just my opinion but fake turf just seems cheap to me.

With respect to play, both teams have to deal with the surface. I think having to deal with the elements is a part of the game, whether it's wind, rain, or horrible footing. Trying to fix all of those issues is what leads to soulless domed stadia.

Again, it's just my opinion. If you prefer fake turf (or couldn't care less) that's your prerogative.

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Swarbrick on the playing surface for 2014 - Brendan, 2013-12-19, 12:03
- Glad he specifically referenced the Packers system. - ReginaldVelJohnson, 2013-12-19, 12:48
  - Does anyone besides the Packers have the Packers' system? - Jack, 2013-12-19, 13:26
    - Denver and Philadelphia - Bill, 2013-12-19, 13:37
      - It was an unmitigated disaster in Pittsburgh.. - mkmcfrlnd, 2013-12-19, 19:45
        
        Pittsburgh and Philly host more than 2X the games ND does. - ndroman21, 2013-12-20, 05:34
    - Not to the extent that they do - Brendan, 2013-12-19, 13:28
      - The lighting was added in 2010... - ndroman21, 2013-12-19, 17:05
      - And not that I would expect that to hold up well - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2013-12-19, 13:32
      - Who else has hybrid turf of any kind? - Jack, 2013-12-19, 13:31
        
        Apparently the Broncos have the same hybrid turf - Brendan, 2013-12-19, 13:35
- I'm curious, do we have any "grass only" folk? - DCT, 2013-12-19, 12:32
  - I would be very disappointed with turf - crazychester, 2013-12-20, 05:53
  - Nah. - Buck Mulligan, 2013-12-19, 18:25
  - I leave this one to the football staff to figure out - HumanRobot, 2013-12-19, 14:30
  - Gas and ass work for me, too. - KGB, 2013-12-19, 13:32
    - That shows intestinal fortitude - Jack, 2013-12-19, 13:33
  - I realize this is being lazy - Rob (Rakes of Mallow), 2013-12-19, 12:52
    - Amen. - Slainte Joe, 2013-12-20, 06:18
    - fwiw, a few comments on field turf - oviedoirish, 2013-12-19, 17:35
    - co-sign; also, Jumbotron is worse - JD in Portland, 2013-12-19, 16:20
    - The studies seem to be largely inconclusive - Brendan, 2013-12-19, 13:32
    - Mostly agree, although the field has been embarrassing - Dylan, 2013-12-19, 13:20
    - I think I'm in this camp on all points. - Savage, 2013-12-19, 13:19
    - I'm here. - Kevin, 2013-12-19, 13:03
    - agree across the board - Pat, 2013-12-19, 13:00
  - I don't want to argue, nor would I burn my diploma. - Tim, 2013-12-19, 12:48
    - There's a huge difference between weather and a bad field - NDTex, 2013-12-19, 14:08
      - Which is your beef: our field looks bad or plays bad - Tim, 2013-12-19, 14:17
        
        It plays bad, and particularly bad for Kelly's offense. - PAK, 2013-12-19, 20:33
        
        Plays bad - NDTex, 2013-12-19, 17:47
        
        I think it plays bad - irishvol, 2013-12-19, 14:29
        
        And the issue of "both teams have to play on it" - Greg, 2013-12-19, 14:57
        
        I agree with your second paragraph. - Tim, 2013-12-19, 14:47
        
        Why should it be browned out or clumpy at all? - KGB, 2013-12-20, 04:31
        
        I'm not saying it *should* be brown and clumpy. - Tim, 2013-12-20, 07:20
    - I'm of the same ilk - Jack, 2013-12-19, 13:28
    - My argument against that - Bill, 2013-12-19, 12:53
      - Is that not an argument for a dome? - Tim, 2013-12-19, 13:45
        
        It's not a slippery slope - CK08, 2013-12-19, 20:00
        
        Some people think silicone boobs are as nice as natural. - Tim, 2013-12-20, 07:43
      - My argument against that - Rob (Rakes of Mallow), 2013-12-19, 12:59
    - That was awesome as a fan of neither team - Greg, 2013-12-19, 12:52
  - There are no "grass only" folk out there - Greg, 2013-12-19, 12:48
  - I'm not sure about here, but folks on other sites - Bill, 2013-12-19, 12:36
    - I've been on Wake's field about 1/2 dozen times - Chris, 2013-12-19, 12:40
      - FieldTurf has really improved over the years. - Bill, 2013-12-19, 12:43
        
        The Michigan Experience - James, 2013-12-19, 14:00
        
        Excellent morals! - oviedoirish, 2013-12-19, 17:48

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Which is your beef: our field looks bad or plays bad