What were the stretches of good play from 2012?
And I'll spot you the defense, specifically the run defense because we were still a bit paranoid about the secondary (specifically Russell) after the Navy game.
Complete thread:
- Happy Anniversary!!! -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2013-09-17, 09:05
- I put a "big picture" tag on this thread -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:53
- Wait, someone thinks this thread is fun? -
PAK,
2013-09-17, 11:09
- you know what I think? -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 11:35
- This is a job for only one man - HullieAndMikes, 2013-09-17, 12:06
- ND's fans are on a constant quest for misery - Domer99, 2013-09-17, 12:03
- I'm just glad -
Mark,
2013-09-17, 11:46
- I love his pronunciation in that tape - Jay, 2013-09-17, 11:49
- Indeed -
FunkDoctorSpock,
2013-09-17, 11:38
- I'll admit this is a rather facile analysis... -
KGB,
2013-09-17, 11:52
- We played Michigan in game 4 last year -
CK08,
2013-09-17, 11:56
- MSU was 11-3 and beat Georgia in the bowl -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 12:05
- And won 4 by at most 4. - Savage, 2013-09-17, 12:46
- Little Giants Karma -
domer.mq,
2013-09-17, 12:06
- and two of those were OT - Jay, 2013-09-17, 12:12
- This is the second best start, after three games, for Kelly - FunkDoctorSpock, 2013-09-17, 12:04
- MSU was 11-3 and beat Georgia in the bowl -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 12:05
- We played Michigan in game 4 last year -
CK08,
2013-09-17, 11:56
- I'll admit this is a rather facile analysis... -
KGB,
2013-09-17, 11:52
- you know what I think? -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 11:35
- Wait, someone thinks this thread is fun? -
PAK,
2013-09-17, 11:09
- I know there's a lot of negatives going on -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 09:13
- Kelly is on the road to salvaging ND football -
Jeff (BGS),
2013-09-17, 09:40
- If ND goes 8-5 this season . . . -
Mark,
2013-09-17, 09:44
- Have we earned the right to be upset with 8-5? -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 10:01
- Yes. - Bill, 2013-09-17, 11:12
- That wouldn't be "sustained winning success". -
Glass,
2013-09-17, 10:30
- Not sure I get this one, but I'm kind of zonked today -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 10:33
- Perhaps I'm misreading him - irishvol, 2013-09-17, 10:48
- I think it's tough to call three 8-5 seasons . . . -
Glass,
2013-09-17, 10:48
- If we agreed -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2013-09-17, 12:13
- If only the NC game was a win . . . - Mark, 2013-09-17, 12:57
- Ok, I think I see - HullieAndMikes, 2013-09-17, 10:52
- If we agreed -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2013-09-17, 12:13
- Not sure I get this one, but I'm kind of zonked today -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 10:33
- Sure. Five losses would mean losing games we shouldn't have -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:19
- ND should be a program that consistently wins 10+ games. - LaFortune Teller, 2013-09-17, 10:29
- Define "should" - Mike (bart), 2013-09-17, 10:24
- That's pretty slippery though -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 10:20
- nine game left -- where are 4 more losses? -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:24
- 4 more losses is NOT hard to find. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:37
- oh, we *could* lose up to six -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:45
- What are our positive data points from this year? -
Mike (bart),
2013-09-17, 10:49
- Others - Domer99, 2013-09-17, 11:45
- Michigan had our 2012 Purdue game last week - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2013-09-17, 11:42
- I understand -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:48
- We damn near lost to Purdue @ HOME last year. -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 10:50
- And we improved pretty dramatically by October. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:52
- But I think we can look at the schedule and see 5 losses.... -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 11:36
- I'm certainly not predicting 5 losses. - MattG, 2013-09-17, 12:04
- But I think we can look at the schedule and see 5 losses.... -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 11:36
- And we improved pretty dramatically by October. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:52
- We damn near lost to Purdue @ HOME last year. -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 10:50
- Actually we "could" lose up to 9 -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 10:47
- If they repeat their Purdue effort, they *will* lose 5. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:50
- If we repeated the 2012 Purdue effort we would have lost 5 - Jack, 2013-09-17, 12:16
- It wasn't just a "flat" effort -
Mike (bart),
2013-09-17, 10:54
- Pitt was of that variety - HullieAndMikes, 2013-09-17, 10:59
- If they repeat their Purdue effort, they *will* lose 5. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:50
- What are our positive data points from this year? -
Mike (bart),
2013-09-17, 10:49
- You could say that in any year -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 10:41
- That's exactly my point. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:46
- We have had many years where things have changed -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 10:48
- I'm with you. The hair-pulling is getting excessive. -
PAK,
2013-09-17, 11:06
- Some of it is particularly annoying from people who seem to - Jack, 2013-09-17, 12:31
- Certainly. - MattG, 2013-09-17, 11:03
- I'm with you. The hair-pulling is getting excessive. -
PAK,
2013-09-17, 11:06
- We have had many years where things have changed -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 10:48
- That's exactly my point. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:46
- No, they're not hard to find. -
Kevin,
2013-09-17, 10:40
- What the hell does ND's record against USC at home have -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 10:42
- Hey, calm down! -
Kevin,
2013-09-17, 10:47
- I'm not the one who brought up games since 2001 -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 12:38
- Just relax. Breathe. - Joe, 2013-09-17, 16:50
- Good grief. Try some Metamucil. -
Slainte Joe,
2013-09-17, 13:53
- Bleah - Jack, 2013-09-17, 21:01
- I also think it'll be a close, hard-fought game. - Kevin, 2013-09-17, 13:04
- Hey Jack - eat a Snickers. -
irishvol,
2013-09-17, 13:00
- Well that's certainly a better suggestion than Metamucil - Jack, 2013-09-17, 21:03
- I'm not the one who brought up games since 2001 -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 12:38
- Hey, calm down! -
Kevin,
2013-09-17, 10:47
- What the hell does ND's record against USC at home have -
Jack,
2013-09-17, 10:42
- oh, we *could* lose up to six -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:45
- While I don't think 8-5 is in our future... - Chris, 2013-09-17, 10:32
- I can find several - Mike (bart), 2013-09-17, 10:32
- I think what I'm trying to say - HullieAndMikes, 2013-09-17, 10:30
- I agree with this. - Greg, 2013-09-17, 10:29
- Edit: looking at Sagarin -
Jeff (BGS),
2013-09-17, 10:27
- I'm just saying, "earn's" got nothing to do with it -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:34
- I hear you. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:40
- Did we all forget last year's Purdue game? -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 10:43
- But after 3 games last season -
Mike (bart),
2013-09-17, 10:45
- What were the stretches of good play from 2012? - Domer99, 2013-09-17, 12:39
- I think this team has shown as much as 2012 -
Jeff (BGS),
2013-09-17, 10:48
- You have the sequence wrong -
BPH,
2013-09-17, 10:59
- MSU was not the No. 10 team in the country - CK08, 2013-09-17, 11:27
- I wasn't thinking sequence as much as opponent vs opponent - Jeff (BGS), 2013-09-17, 11:04
- You have the sequence wrong -
BPH,
2013-09-17, 10:59
- But after 3 games last season -
Mike (bart),
2013-09-17, 10:45
- Did we all forget last year's Purdue game? -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 10:43
- Are you in "expect" or "tolerate" mode here? -
Mike (bart),
2013-09-17, 10:37
- good point - Jay, 2013-09-17, 10:49
- I hear you. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:40
- I'm just saying, "earn's" got nothing to do with it -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:34
- 4 more losses is NOT hard to find. -
MattG,
2013-09-17, 10:37
- nine game left -- where are 4 more losses? -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:24
- I'll Swarbrick your question - Kevin, 2013-09-17, 10:13
- We're Notre Dame fans -
Greg,
2013-09-17, 10:10
- The single greatest fan quote I've ever read c/o ND fan - hobbs, 2013-09-17, 10:21
- As much as I hate to say it, I'd give him a pass -
Jeff (BGS),
2013-09-17, 09:55
- That's where I'm at. - MattG, 2013-09-17, 10:43
- For me, I could live with an 8-5 record - hobbs, 2013-09-17, 09:54
- ask the question a different way -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 09:50
- Waitaminnit -
Greg,
2013-09-17, 10:04
- I will also cop that QB has been very strange to Kelly - HumanRobot, 2013-09-17, 10:22
- I have absolutely no idea... -
BPH,
2013-09-17, 10:13
- Yep, its dicey at best - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2013-09-17, 11:40
- he might not carry 100% blame for the current QB situation -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 10:11
- That's a reach - Jack, 2013-09-17, 10:39
- What if he had lost Golson to injury? -
Jeff (BGS),
2013-09-17, 10:23
- A&M without JFF -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:24
- They would get to 7 wins for sure. - PAK, 2013-09-17, 10:27
- A&M without JFF -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:24
- his #2 guy is playing at a pretty good level - Jay, 2013-09-17, 10:13
- I agree that the problem is the 2012 QB -
Greg,
2013-09-17, 10:13
- I'll first couch to only having public and ISD info - HumanRobot, 2013-09-17, 10:18
- How much is fair to put on Kelly? -
BPH,
2013-09-17, 10:01
- he didn't get much at QB thanks to Weis -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 10:06
- This is debatable. -
Mark,
2013-09-17, 10:22
- Kelly did not inherit a good QB situation... -
BillyGoat,
2013-09-17, 10:28
- I think that's unfair to Weis. -
Savage,
2013-09-17, 11:09
- Murray and Pachall are the only 2 that did ANYTHING either. - PAK, 2013-09-17, 11:11
- he inherited 2 Montanas! -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 10:31
- I would liked to have seen Montana - Jeff (BGS), 2013-09-17, 10:33
- Two? Nate and . . . .Hannah? -
BillyGoat,
2013-09-17, 10:32
- Soccer dad. - Domer99, 2013-09-17, 12:04
- I forgot about that Rees note on enrolling early - Jay, 2013-09-17, 10:30
- I think that's unfair to Weis. -
Savage,
2013-09-17, 11:09
- Kelly did not inherit a good QB situation... -
BillyGoat,
2013-09-17, 10:28
- That would be five QBs in two years - BPH, 2013-09-17, 10:09
- This is debatable. -
Mark,
2013-09-17, 10:22
- he didn't get much at QB thanks to Weis -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 10:06
- I think you're right. Ask where the program is going -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 09:56
- We absolutely should be in the mix in 2015 -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2013-09-17, 10:08
- On Daniels to the NFL -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 10:15
- I doubt Daniels will be around in 2015 -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 10:28
- I wasn't really thinking about him returning for 2015. - Domer99, 2013-09-17, 10:33
- Did Daniels redshirt? -
PAK,
2013-09-17, 10:26
- Phillip Daniels just wrapped up his career in 2010 -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 10:32
- Oh right, I was thinking of the Atkinson brothers. -
PAK,
2013-09-17, 10:36
- Are they the ones who produced Fargo? - Jeff (BGS), 2013-09-17, 10:40
- Oh right, I was thinking of the Atkinson brothers. -
PAK,
2013-09-17, 10:36
- yes - Jay, 2013-09-17, 10:27
- Phillip Daniels just wrapped up his career in 2010 -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 10:32
- I doubt Daniels will be around in 2015 -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 10:28
- Don't forget that at OL we will also still have eligibility -
BillyGoat,
2013-09-17, 10:09
- Yep - Jeremy (WeIsND), 2013-09-17, 11:35
- On Daniels to the NFL -
Domer99,
2013-09-17, 10:15
- depends on a lot -
HumanRobot,
2013-09-17, 10:02
- Tuitt's at an interesting crossroads -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:09
- Starting to remind me a little of Manti's junior year. - KGB, 2013-09-17, 10:47
- Tuitt's at an interesting crossroads -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:09
- We absolutely should be in the mix in 2015 -
Jeremy (WeIsND),
2013-09-17, 10:08
- Waitaminnit -
Greg,
2013-09-17, 10:04
- Have we earned the right to be upset with 8-5? -
HullieAndMikes,
2013-09-17, 10:01
- If ND goes 8-5 this season . . . -
Mark,
2013-09-17, 09:44
- Hey - is that a fat joke? -
Brendan,
2013-09-17, 09:19
- In fairness, I did go with a ship rather than a zeppelin - HullieAndMikes, 2013-09-17, 09:30
- Kelly is on the road to salvaging ND football -
Jeff (BGS),
2013-09-17, 09:40
- I put a "big picture" tag on this thread -
Jay,
2013-09-17, 10:53