ACC offseason meetings underway
by Jay, San Diego, Thursday, May 16, 2013, 10:04 (4772 days ago)
Some ND-related soundbites:
Swarbrick loves the ACC
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-15/sports/os-acc-spring-meetings-0516-20130...
Brey loves the ACC
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-05-14/sports/os-notre-dames-mike-brey-set-for-...
I thought Dodd had a pretty nice piece yesterday
by hobbs, San Diego, CA, Thursday, May 16, 2013, 10:30 (4771 days ago) @ Jay
edited by hobbs, Thursday, May 16, 2013, 11:06
looking at the ACC's current outlook and growth potential.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/22247011/onfield-results-dont-come-close...
could the ACC be a better football conference than the B10?
by Jay, San Diego, Thursday, May 16, 2013, 14:06 (4771 days ago) @ hobbs
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Staples takes on the debate.
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, South Bend, Friday, May 17, 2013, 08:13 (4771 days ago) @ Jay
IMO, absolutely
by hobbs, San Diego, CA, Thursday, May 16, 2013, 15:41 (4771 days ago) @ Jay
Get Miami and FSU right and the ACC at the top just as strong as the top 2 of the Big 10 (Tosu & M).
Clemson, GT, and UNC all reside in football rich areas and if they produced at the level of their potential I think that next tier trumps Wisky, PSU, and Nebraska. Add in NCS, and UVA and I think that at peak performance the ACC could field 5/6 top 25 teams. I didn't even mention VPI because I really don't like their long term fundamentals and I think they are the byproduct of a very good coach.
As I look at the B1G the power programs with potential are Tosu, M, PSU. Nebraska resides in a state that produces almost no talent and their ability to go elsewhere to get talent is limited. Factor in that they also moved away from their historic recruiting base (Texas & CA) and I just don't see where they go to get talent to run with Tosu & M much less the big dogs of cfb. I think Wisky has been living a lie based on a weak conference and beyond pathetic OOC scheduling. MSU, is only good when UM and OSU are down. Iowa? Please. I'm in the minority here but I believe that if Rutgers ever landed a Brian Kelly like coach they could develop into a top 3 Big 10 program. New Jersey is loaded with talent. If RU keeps those kids home and picks off a couple in PA, and Maryland/DC their talent base would be close to Tosu & M.
Saying NJ is "loaded" might be an overstatement.
by Ken Fowler, Friday, May 17, 2013, 12:02 (4770 days ago) @ hobbs
edited by Ken Fowler, Friday, May 17, 2013, 12:39
Using the Rivals data, and multiplying the per-capita coefficients by the population sizes, here are the East Coast "raw scores," where you can compare one state's talent pool to that of others:
Florida - 34.9
Georgia - 17.1
North Carolina - 8.7
Virginia - 7.9
New Jersey - 5.5
Maryland - 5.5
South Carolina - 5.2
New York - 4.5
Washington, D.C. โ 0.9
Thus, there are about 6 D-1 players from Florida for every 1 from New Jersey (34.9 รท 5.5 = 6.345). It's 3:1 for Georgia to NJ, more than 3:2 for NC to NJ, and Maryland has as much talent as New Jersey โ but no one would claim that Maryland is "loaded."
New Jersey has talent, but not nearly as much as other states.
That "recruiting base" point about Rutgers
by CK08, Friday, May 17, 2013, 08:46 (4771 days ago) @ hobbs
has been true for 150 years. And yet they've pretty much sucked that entire time.
A lot of it comes down to coaching.
by KGB, Belly o. the Beast, Friday, May 17, 2013, 07:27 (4771 days ago) @ hobbs
The SEC region produces the most prep talent, but the reason they've been on top is because they've employed a strong contingent of coaches. No one was talking about how unbeatable these guys were when Zook and Shula were leading the charge at UF and Alabama.
The ACC's coverage area, as a footprint, would have to be considered as talent-rich as any other conference in the country. So if you can match that sort of draw with some football programs that are clicking on all cylinders, then the unrealized potential seems fairly obvious. But this entails finding as well as retaining some legitimately excellent coaches, and I'm not sure how many of those there are in the ACC right now. Some promising question marks but not a lot to hang their hat on just yet.